Thursday, 12 November 2020

I-Y33765 draft tree November 12th 2020

This is our latest draft phylogenetic tree for I-Y33765.  

The chart includes 6 new SNPs common to the English arm of I-Y33765. These have recently been identified and named by FTDNA (FT310619; FT314713; FT314945; FT321056; FT324244) and YFull (Y207591) from comparison of Big Y-700 data for FTDNA kit numbers 236748 and IN82043.  This means that at present there are 19 phylogenetically significant mutations on the English arm and this total is approximately twice the number so far identified on the Swedish arm.  At present the reason for this difference in mutation frequency is unclear but I intend to explore some possible explanations in a future article.

FTDNA consider that one of their new SNPs, FT310619, is the confirmed haplogroup for Clement IN82043.  Prior to identifying their five new SNPs they had used Y33767 as the confirmed haplogroup for Clement IN82043 and this is shown on our latest I-Y33765 tree (below).  As FT310619 and Y33767 are phyloequivalent either designation is valid at present. In this connection Bernie Cullen (I2a Project activity feed, 10 November 2020) has observed "These SNPs are equivalent, maybe FTDNA prefers to use FT series SNPs to name branches." It seems to me that as Y33767 was identified and named by YFull in 2017, but FTDNA has only just named FT310619, the earlier YFull SNP designation is more appropriate for the branch name. From his Big Y-700 analysis Clement IN82043 also has one private variant (Hg38, 15198490) and this has now been named Y223449 by YFull.

Within the past few days Yseq have tested Clements YS32054 for the Y33767 SNP and have confirmed his status is derived (+).    This finding supports my hypothesis the Clement/s lineages on the English arm share a most recent common ancestor who was living in north Somerset, perhaps in the Chew valley, towards the close of the fifteenth century.  

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2 comments:

  1. Charlotta, you are absolutely right. A 5th Swedish result would be very helpful at this stage. Also, it would be equally useful to have a further Swedish Big Y vcf file uploaded at YFull. Either development would strengthen confidence in estimated dates on the Swedish arm of the chart.

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